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2016年10月11日星期二

Cheap Gens ace & Tattu RC Lipo Battery hot deals

For the pilots or drivers, we know that you are always in need of some RC Lipo batteries, so we set up the hot deals page with all hottest deals of Gens ace &Tattu in on page. And it's convenient RC hobbyist to choose cheap Gens ace &Tattu lipo battery on the official shop.

Let's take a look at some of the great offers we have picked out for you:
1. Gens ace 2200mAh 7.4V 25C 2S1P Lipo Battery Pack with Deans plug
http://www.genstattu.com/gens-ace-2200mah-7-4v-25c-2s1p-lipo-battery-pack-with-deans-plug.html
$14.66 $12.46
Sku: GA-B-25C-2200-2S1P-Deans
2200mAh 2s 7.4v lipo battery Designed for 70MM EDF rc plane, 450 helicopter, rc boat.
2. Gens ace 2200mAh 14.8V 25C 4S1P Lipo Battery Pack with Deans plug
http://www.genstattu.com/gens-ace-2200mah-14-8v-25c-4s1p-lipo-battery-pack-with-deans-plug.html
$29.30 $24.91
Sku: GA-B-25C-2200-4S1P-Deans
2200mAh 25C 4S lipo battery designed for 3D HobbyShop 48" foamy, F-16 64mm edf jet, 70mm edf F16, Freewing F-15, FPV etc.
3. Gens ace 5000mAh 14.8V 50C 4S1P Hardcase Lipo Battery14# with Deans plug
http://www.genstattu.com/gens-ace-5000mah-14-8v-50c-4s1p-hardcase-lipo-battery14-with-deans-plug.html
$78.59 $66.80
Sku: GA-B-50C-5000-4S1P-HardCase-14
5000mAh 50C 4S RC car lipo battery designed for 1/8 & 1/10 RC car model such as E Buggy and E Truggy Tekno EB48.3, Losi 8 4.0, Mugen MBX7R etc.
4. Gens ace 5000mAh 7.4V 50C 2S1P Hardcase Lipo Battery Pack 10# with 4.0mm Banana to Deans plug
http://www.genstattu.com/gens-ace-5000mah-7-4v-50c-2s1p-hardcase-lipo-battery-665.html
$36.99 $31.44
Sku: GA-B-50C-5000-2S1P-HardCase-10
5000mAh 50C 2s lipo car battery suited to the following models: 1/8 & 1/10 RC car model
And in addition to, For the individual customer, when order over $49.99 in USA, Over $198 in Canada we will provide the free shipping. More about hottest deals chick: http://www.genstattu.com/hotdeals
Source: http://www.genstattu.com/blog/cheap-gens-ace-tattu-rc-lipo-battery-hot-deals/

2016年10月8日星期六

Tattu 1800mAh 75C 4S RC lipo battery Testing

I was sent one of the new Tattu 1800mah 75C 4S batteries to do a bit of testing. I've been flying it for a week or so and I have spent some time gathering data. Here is what I've found so far.
To give a bit of background, I am a multirotor pilot, and am primarily interested in miniquads. That being said the testing I've done applies universally. These high C rated batteries are useful beyond the bounds of multirotors into the world of 3D flying, and high performance aircraft.


Physical Characteristics

As with the Gens ace 2200mah I reviewed last month, my first impressions of this RC lipo battery are very positive. Gens ace/Tattu seem to use the same build techniques in both their lower discharge and higher discharge batteries. It has the same aluminum support that covers the battery and adds additional protection to the top and bottom of the battery. After a bit more research I have found that this actually provides compression during high discharge and according to research can significantly extend the life of the battery. Again, where the high current lines enter the battery casing they are re-enforced with additional heat shrink. The balance leads also come out the opposite side of the casing rather than the same side as the high current lines. In addition this battery has a plastic cover that extends over the balance lead cables, preventing stress on the cables when plugging and unplugging the balance cable. I will point out that on some chargers this can prevent the balance leads from fitting properly. Unlike the 2200mah, this battery came with XT60 connectors, which means no soldering for me. Battery dimensions actually exactly the same as the 2200mah 2S battery, and are accurate to the product description on the sellers website. The wight is just over 200g and the physical size is 105mm x 35mm x 25.4mm. Because of the aluminum plates the size is very consistent.

Tattu 1800mAh 75C 4S1P lipo battery pack with XT60 plug
Brand: Tattu
Capacity: 1800mAh
Voltage: 14.8V
Discharge Rate: 75C
Max Burst Discharge Rate: 150C
Configuration: 4S1P
Size: 105mm*35mm*25.4mm
Connector Type: XT-60
Balancer Connector Type: JST-XHR

Features:


1. Stable automatic stacking technology enables single cell capacities of 1800mAh.
2. The most strict single cell capacity, voltage, resistance, discharge curve matching process.
3. Superior Japan and Korea Lithium Polymer raw materials.
Tattu batteries provide high quality, reliable power for LRC Freestyle V1(270-296), CX Pro Quadcopter(228), ortex, Super Mini H Quad Power Train, drone and FPV etc.

Conclusions

My initial impressions of these batteries both in build quality and performance are very positive. Because of the very high C rating, it is hard to get an accurate picture of whether or not this battery can full fill a 75C (135A) current load, but given very few people have a setup that can draw that type of constant load, that's not something we can easily gauge. Since I haven't found a reliable method for testing internal resistance It's hard to get an objective measurement of true C rating. I will post an update as soon as I can test these on a more reliable tester. I can say up to 65A loads this battery performs excellently. I was also very impressed with how well it recovered from first time abuse.
The battery provides both solid performance and the extras in the build such as the reinforced cables and aluminum compression plates add up to a very nice battery. For those interested, the battery is available here:
http://www.genstattu.com/tattu-1800mah-75c-4s1p-lipo-battery-pack-with-xt60-plug.html
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rh6_MfOFpA

Thanks for QuadMcFly review and video.

2016年6月14日星期二

Why my drone simple to crash?

As the drone more into people's lives, the crashing drone inevitably come to be to a scorching topic, since for being truthful, frying a machine is as well uncomplicated,while the worst knowledge a drone pilot can face is crashing or shedding your drone through flight. Plenty of new classmate don't have very good instruction, or lack of corresponding processing experience, they normally crashed of ignorance, the causes are various.the reason may be divided into two broad categories:

Prior to flight:

No calibration of GPS and also the compass;
No number of stars on GPS, weak star flight;
Didn't tighten the screw. Propeller should verify once again;
Didn't verify the electric amount of 22.2v Lipo battery. Many people will put together numerous batteries, at times,but they did not press the button to view if the energy enough once they very first fly;
Unfamiliar with the remote control , do not even know when they accidentally set to Japan's hand.

Throughout flight:

Bump a tree, developing, hit anything at all;

Lack of control skill bring about the disorder direction right after the drone fly over-the-horizon;

With the interference spot in the course of flight;

Ignored the sudden wind or windy weather;

From brake management bring about drone roll fell.
To assist you avoid this predicament, we're going to explain the biggest dangers to you and everything you can do to prevent them.

Know Your Drone Piloting Abilities

The biggest danger for your drone is oneself, in particular should you're a brand new pilot or doing work with unfamiliar products. The odds are if some thing goes incorrect throughout your flight, you triggered the issue!
Start out out lower and slow. We all know the best joys of flying a drone can come from soaring around higher up inside the sky, maybe even capturing some killer video, but you have to learn while flying 15-30 feet off the ground just before taking it any higher. For the duration of a worst-case scenario (heading to get a tree/building, operating from battery, losing handle, etc.) you have to get your drone back to the ground ASAP.
Treat New Equipment being a New Drone. If you include new equipment to your drone (like attaching a new camera on your Phantom), treat your flight as though it's a totally new drone you might want to master. Matters like dealing with and RC Lipo battery life might be impacted and could bring about some poor outcomes in case you treat it as though absolutely nothing has modified.

Steer clear of Obstacles

This goes along with flying inside of your limits, but one of the most typical causes of crashes are attributable to flying your drone into objects like trees and buildings. It's also one of the simplest methods to drop your drone acquiring it caught with the top of the 60 foot tree, or on leading of a building you don't have entry to (plus the owners may well not be so great).

Start off out by flying in an open field, away from any trees, buildings, bodies of water, or roadways. This is actually the safest method to make certain your drone comes dwelling with you.

Weather Can Kill Your Drone

An additional important threat for your drone is weather itself. Thankfully, it's very easy to prevent in case you just place within a little time researching climate reviews ahead of hand.
Check the climate report prior to you fly If there's a chance of rain, conserve your flying for a different day! Superior to get protected than have your drone come crashing to the earth resulting from technical malfunctions from having moist.
Know the wind gusts. Make sure you check out the current wind ailments on the weather app in advance of take-off. Most novice pilots can manage wind speeds of 5-10 MPH with out a lot problem. In case you see wind speeds at 15 MPH or over, you must reconsider flying near any obstacles or with a lot of altitude. You might uncover your drone caught in the wind gust that didn't exist at reduce altitudes, and it could carry your drone away or capsize it.

2016年3月6日星期日

3S or 4S Battery Question

The KV rating indicates an unloaded ( no prop) RPM that the motor will spin at. The actual RPM you get will depend on the prop you use. The ESC will work with a 4S battery, but for any given set up ( load and throttle setting) the 4s will result in a higher average current delivery than the 3S.

The 11.1 v assumption you are making on the the 3S battery is the low end of the charge/ discharge voltage curve, I would use a fully charged battery voltage to think about current draw. If the top end the motor will deal with is 660 watts, at 12.5 v that will be a current draw of 52 to 53 amps, which exceeds the capacity of your ESC ( 45 amp continuous, 50 burst). The ESC seems to be the limiting factor in your power system, so to use the Gens ace 4s battery you may need to consider reducing your prop size and or pitch to maintain the same overall current draw on the system.


Because the ESC deliver current in a time gated fashion ( full current on then off with the interval determined by your thottle setting) you cannot depend on the just assuming you can fly at less than full throttle to keep your current delivery in a safe range for your ESC.

There is the benefit of getting more watts out of your setup. The Afro 20A slim ESC (2S-4S) and 18AWG wire are rated for 20A. Amps is what melts your wires and ESCs. Watts is what makes your motors powerful generally speaking.

For each motor:
A 3S setup will have a theoretical watt limit of 12v x 20A = 240 watts
A 4S setup will have a theoretical watt limit of 15v x 20A = 300 watts

Also the LiPos “contain” more watts per mAh in a 4S lipo vs a 3S lipo:

Lets compare 2200mAh 40C lipos

2200mAh 3S 40C lipo: 2200mAh x 12v = 264 watts – continuous draw: 88A
2200mAh 4S 40C lipo: 2200mAh x 15v = 330 watts – continuous draw: 88A

4S tends to be a bit heavier than Gens ace 3s lipo with the same mAh and C rating though. What makes most sense is to compare the watt to weight ratio.

Another vital factor to be aware of with the Silver series ESC is that they use a % of initial voltage to determine the LVC, as opposed to the fixed voltage that most other manufactures use. As stated in their instructions, never use a partially discharged battery on thier ESC as it may set the LVC at a point that will result in battery damage if flown to the LVC.

The motor will WANT to increase speed by 1000 rpm (per volt), but will lose some to heat and what have you. I wouldn't get too bogged down on that part right now.

Watts = volts X amps

A higher VOLTAGE setup is often used to REDUCE the AMPS required. If you look at the formula above, if you increase the voltage, you reduce the amps.

The esc amp rating has NOTHING to do with the amount of power your setup will draw. It is a MAXIMUM rating for the esc. Think of an electrical fuse. You can flow anything from zero up to the fuse limit with no problems. Exceed the maximum rating and bad things happen. Smaller esc's are usually used to save weight, room, and money.Similar with the C rating of the battery pack. C rating x the battery capacity (in amp hours) = the number of amps the battery CAN provide at its maximum level. You can certainly use a higher C rating battery, but not a LOWER C rating.

2016年3月4日星期五

Going from 3S to 4S Lipo Battery

4S lipos use 4 cells in serial and therefore reach a nominal voltage of 14.8V. If you increase the battery voltage by 33% (3S to 4S) then you are effectively increasing the motor speed by 33%. To keep all things equal you need to decrease the prop size to match this increased motor speed and prevent the motors from heating up. Once at the same wattage (roughly the same speed and thrust in flight) you would draw 33% less current, and therefore  get about 33% longer flying time. The reasoning behind that is: Watts = Volts x Amps. Thus increase volts by 33%, then drop amps x 33% for same watts.


If you don’t decrease the prop size, the faster spinning prop will generate a lot more speed and a lot more current, increasing the watts very significantly. The resulting effect will be a higher powered (lower hover throttle) quad, with a higher current draw (resulting in shorter flight times). You may also run the risk of overheating your motors or drawing more current than the ESC can handle. This is obviously not desired. Although we do want to increase the power slightly vs. the 3S config.

Also keep in mind that not all equipment can handle the higher voltage of Gens ace 4s. The Tarot Gimbal cannot handle this voltage and therefore needs a voltage regulator. If you are using additional FPV equipment, you also need to check if they can handle the maximum 16.8V that 4S brings.

Material for testing
For testing IRIS with 4S batteries, we need a 4S Lipo, but also smaller propellers. Here is what I’m using for the tests:
  1. 7.4v 5000mah lipo battery from Genstattu. This battery is very cheap and delivers roughly as much wattage as a 3S-4000mAh battery. It fits the IRIS battery bay perfectly and already comes with an XT-60 plug. I already own a IMAX B6-AC Charger/Discharger, which is capable of charging these batteries without any issues.
  2. APC SlowFly 9×4.7 Pusher and Puller propellers. They are basically the same propeller as the stock propellers that come with IRIS, except that they are 9″ in outer diameter instead of 10″. As they use the same spacer rings for the propeller shaft, you can even leave your current ones on IRIS.
  3. Voltage regulator from 4S (16.8V) to 12V. The Tarot Brushless Gimbal is recommended to be operated with 12V and cannot handle voltages higher than 14.8V. We therefore need to place a voltage regular between the 4S battery and the Gimbal. This will reduce the voltage from up to 16.8V on the lipo side to 12V for the Gimbal. As the Gimbal only draws a maximum of 500 mA, the linked voltage regular is a perfect choice. Also the regulator already comes with the right plugs, is very small and lightweight.

2016年1月27日星期三

My DIY Lipo Battery Back Experience Share for You

Superior monolithic battery may not produce high quality Lipo battery pack for RC aircraft, but excellent RC aircraft battery pack necessarily need superior lipo cell to produce. This is particularly true if you need a battery pack to regularly power equipment such as remote controlled (RC) cars or aeroplanes. Batteries such as nickel cadmium (NiCad) or nickel metal hydride (NiMH) are popular choices for RC car enthusiasts, while lithium polymer (LiPo) batteries are chosen by RC aeroplane enthusiasts, due to the that battery's lighter weight and higher output voltage. Make a rechargeable battery pack wired in series to increase output voltage: RC models need about 10-volts to operate, although it varies by type. Wiring in series combines the output voltage of each battery in the pack.

I have two gens ace lipo 6S 5000 mAh battery packs. One pack has one defect cell. I remove the defect cell and one of the good cells from the defect battery pack and thus get a 4S pack.
I connect the 6S and 4S packs lipo battery 5000mah together in serial to get a 10S battery pack. Wiring diagram is shown below.

I also cheek each battery pack using RC LI-Po battery tester. The RC Li-Po tester clearly indicates how many cells there are in the battery pack  (including the Voltage of each Li-Po battery cell). However, this particular RC Li-Po tester can only test up to 8 battery cells. Fully charged battery cell has a voltage of nearly 4.2V. The pictures below depict the testing of a 6S (number of cells) and a 4S (voltage of a single cell in a pack) battery pack. When I connect everything together, I get a 10S 5Ah 36V Li-Po battery pack. I put the pack into the triangle bike bag for easy fitting on to the bike. Total weight of the battery pack is only 1,42 Kg.
So far in the auctions I have won on Genstattu, I have paid an average of $8.94 per cell, including shipping and handling charges! The 6-cell Lipo pack that I will build in this How-To cost me a grand total of $54.87 including the cost of the 6 cells, the Deans Connector, the 12 gauge wire and the tape used to hold everything together. If you decide to add a balance connector, this will add about $2.00 to the cost of the build.

The 6 cell pack built here has a open circuit voltage of 6 x 3.7 volts per cell for a total pack voltage of 22.2 volts, and has a capacity of 2300mah. The pack can deliver 30C continuous (69 Amps) with burst capability of 40C (92 Amps). I am currently running them in my 150% F-4 and 166% F-18 ParkJets and in both planes I am pulling 35 Amps (15.2C), and getting 5-6 minute flights with 300-400mah left in the lipo battery pack at the end of the flights. At this current draw, the Gens Ace 6-cell pack delivers 22.2 volts or 2.867 volts per cell. In this application, the packs are delivering 22.2 volts x 35 Amps or 602 watts, which is pretty good for a battery pack that weighs just 1 pound!

I think that I may be somewhat alone in my continued usage of Gens ace lipo batteries. If you care to join me, you can buy factory assembled Gens lipo battery packs from numerous vendors. Those of you comfortable with heavy soldering can save a few bucks by assembling your own packs from individual cells. In fact, most of my Gens Ace lipo battery packs were built with cells scavenged from certain DeWalt cordless drill batteries. Also note that Gens Ace lipo battery cells require specific chargers.